Polish Non Opus Dei interview lasted long relatively for a long time, but this my and my lack of time was formed from his mistake who. The front man, his stage name Klimorh I quizzed a lord about the horde, the  Hungarian topics turned up concerned in connection with the Polish situation, and incidentally surprisingly well our informed homeland in a contact. Oh, army let me not speak, let’s see from what the fly perishes – logically his end. Let’s go!

First of all please introduce your band and the positions! When did you formed and what were the antecedents?

The band originated in 1997 and since that time we recorded and released two demos, a rehearsal (on vinyl), and several studio albums. As you can see, many years have passed since all this began and the band has been changing constantly over these years. My attitude is that this band evolves, changes, you could say “lives and dies”, just like any living organism. I think that the album we are discussing today (“Eternal Circle”) presents the really mature stage of the creature known as Non Opus Dei…

Demons, Satan or Nietzsche what does mean to you?

Nietzsche’s Demon is a key concept in one of our lyrics on the new album. The Demon’s question is “Tell me, do you love this life? Because you will have to live it again and again. The great as well as the despicable things, every pleasure and sorrow”. I interpret this that if there is any real aim, any real sense in the world, this aim is about evolving into higher forms, abort developing yourself. As a wise man once said, expect poison from the standing water. That is why the everlasting circle of birth, growing and death is seen from the perspective of the eternal recurrence, with Nietzsche’s Demon and his story appearing there as well.

Nowadays we are pretty far from the concepts which include any “-ism”, so you won’t find any mention of Satan in our lyrics, in our ideas. However, you will find lots of references to the pre-christian spirituality of my ancestors, the spirituality of the lands I come from. And that is the spirituality of Slavs and the old Prussians. Many ideas, symbols, concepts refer to this theme and it ideally matches the idea of the Wheel described on our album.

Between Constant Flow and Eternal Cricle three years passed, you made a really mature and correct material, have you prepared it for a long time? Witching Hour Productions is the releaser, what do yout think of them? The design of cover and booklet nicely expresses, what your music is, who made it, and what was its antecedent?

Yes, it took us a lot of time to create such an unusual and extreme album as “Eternal Circle”.
After recording “Constant Flow” we realized that it will be very hard to make the next step as a band, because we want our albums to live, change, evolve. Non Opus Dei never steps in the same river twice, so this time we decided to go into extremes. It was like learning to play again. Each of us had to change something in the attitude towards his instrument. Our drummer worked hard on mastering the incredibly fast patterns, he changed a lot in his drums set. You will hear loads of different blast beasts, whereas on the previous album “Constant Flow” we played in mid tempo. Preparing interesting guitar parts for such extreme drums also was a hard work for us. We chose solid, not complicated riffs embellished with interesting harmonies. Vocals were challenging, too. They are raw, they have the same intensity and aggression as the rest of music. Thanks to all this, “Eternal Circle” is a totally coherent, perfect album.

As for the design of the cover that you mention… All the aspects – music, vision and words – match one another. The concept of the Wheel is accompanied by incredible works of art, prepared by Bartek Rogalewicz. He treated his duties really seriously. The front cover you mentioned is the result of an incredible amount of work. He did not want to use any digital collage, so he had to work with a slide projector and a model. To get this particular photograph, he needed to make more than two hundred shots.

Bartek wanted to connect his works of art with the concept of our lyrics. I think he managed to do it. Thanks to it, our booklet contains something more than images which could be used for a horror story. The graphics live their own life and interact with the music and lyrics. The concept for the graphics was inspired by Witkacy and the nineteenth century spirit photography. Technically, the design also follows this path, because almost all the graphics were prepared without photoshop or digital collage. This attitude makes the album different from the trends and fashions of modern “extreme” metal music.

The booklet of “Eternal Circle” is the result of many photo sessions. There were lots of great photographs to choose from and we are planning to make a virtual gallery which would contain the unused stuff. The exhibition will be ready soon. We are also working on a video clip for one of the songs, but that will take us some more time, it will be ready in December this year.

Many people says that because of long-ago lived legendary king, there is a polish-hungarian friendship, what do you think of this? When i lived in England i did not experienced this friendshipment, but maybe i was in a bad environment.

Yes, I think there is a friendship between our nations, there is even a saying in Poland „Węgier, Polak dwa bratanki i do szabli i do szklanki”. In English it means “Pole and Hungarian cousins be, good for fight and good for party”. I heard that this saying exists in Hungary as well. You would probably have to ask a really good historian to explain the origin of this saying.

I think there are more reasons for this friendship than the king you mentioned. For example, it could be the fact that Hungary received some military help from Poland in 1848 during the Spring of Nations. Or more recently – you got a lot of help from Poland back in 1956, when you were trying to fight the communist scum during the Hungarian Revolution. Blood, medicines, and basic supplies were sent from Poland by planes. Poland got some help from you during the Martial Law in Poland in 1981. I also heard that during the Second World War, in spite of the alliance with Hitler, the Hungarian government let the Polish army and Polish people move freely through the territory of Hungary. It was really important, because when Poland was attacked in September 1939 by both Germany from the west and Soviets from the east, a lot of Polish troops escaped to Hungary. Later they could join the Polish military forces in France or Britain.

I am a bit shocked that nowadays my country is looking for allies in some distant USA instead of looking for them in the “neighbourhood”…

What do you think of communist socialism, since you had a long part in to too?

The vision of a society where everyone has to be equal to any other man or woman, a society without any divisions, is terrifying… It is suitable for insects, not for people who are proud to be themselves! In our countries, communism was forced by the Soviets, and fortunately it all is gone today. This sick system should have ended earlier, maybe in the years of 1956 or 1981, that we had already mentioned in the previous question… However, this disease was not easy to be cured.

Which band would you feature from your homeland, those who the Poland’s metal scene is proud of, and what can you tell me about, that at your place there are lots of good bands and firtsly albums born in death-black and thrash metal?

Yes, there are lots of good bands in my country, it is really unusual, it seems that metal is the national feature of Poles, ha ha… Personally, as a really young kid I adored the first two albums by the Polish band Kat, I remember listening to them on vinyl at the beginning of the 90s, they made a big impression on me at that time…

Please tell me 5 black and 5 death metal albums, which had a great influence in your life!

You mean the really old albums that opened my mind to some aspects of metal music? Yes, there are some albums like that, I sometimes come back to them with pleasure and sometimes I can’t stand their bad sound, ha ha… That will be some albums from the 90s, let me mention “Thy mighty contract” by Rotting Christ, “Written in Waters” by Ved Buens Ende, some early Bathory stuff, “Det som engang war” and “Filosofem” by Burzum, I was also fascinated by the atmosphere of “De mysteriis dom Sathanas”… As for death metal, I remember listening to things like “Like an ever flowing stream” by Dismember or “Covenant” by Morbid Angel… Man, there are so many great albums from these years, I won’t give you any list, I couldn’t make any decision which I like best…

Beer or wine?

Beer! A friend of mine owns a shop which sells only beer from small, regional brewing companies from Poland and Europe. And such beer tastes a lot better than the beer produced by big “corporations” which usually try to make the process of brewing beer as short as possible in order to produce more and faster. One must be careful what to drink, ha ha…

What would you do if happiness would be an apple?

A. bite it and eat it.
B. make it shine and put it away.
C. cut it up into little bits and eat it if i’m sad.
D. trade it for a pear… :}

Wow, this is an unusual question… I guess I would eat the apple and enjoy it as much as possible. Then I would take the seeds and grow as many apple trees as possible!

Have you got a message to the readers of Fémforgács?

I wonder if you are tough and brave enough to face the extremity of our new album! By the way, there is one more saying in my country connected with Hungary… „Kto węgrzyna pije, ten po śmierci nie gnije”, which translates as something like „who drinks Hungarian wine, does not rot after death”, ha ha… Cheers!

Last words?

Thanks for the interview and for supporting the band!

Hope we can meet in Hungary at a really killer concert of yours, take care!

Zoli